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Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« on: February 12, 2010, 11:01:19 AM »


 Ever notice how chocolate returns to all-time low prices after a holiday?

 I think thats the true value coming thru.

 The true value of the holiday that is.

 :P
 
Cheers

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Luke

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 09:09:25 AM »
Yes, how very true. Today the chocolate goes on sale, you can buy droopy flowers for a song, and love cards suddenly disappear from the racks.

What a great reminder of the horrendous commercialism of almost every holiday. I find it more and more distasteful the older I get that so many people let commercials and ads tell them how to celebrate any given holiday, that they must spend x amount of money to do so, or that they are entitled to someone spending x amount on them!

I just read the digest of an email discussion list I'm on, and was partly amused and partly horrified at the griping of ALL of the women posting on the subject of Valentine's Day, regarding how either their husband forgot, or got them flowers the day before rather than ON V's Day, or got them an ugly shirt, etc., and I wondered, are any of them just thankful that they *have* a husband, that he is still alive and still with *them*?

How quickly we lose sight of the blessings we have in hand! I guess that's one of the reasons I find the commercialism of holidays so horrific, because it makes us focus so much on what we don't have rather than on what God has so graciously and mercifully given us already!



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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 11:29:23 AM »
How true Fern we DO quickly lose sight of the blessings we have.  Some may disagree with this statement, but I have heard it from several different Bible teachers.  When we are dissatisfied with what God has given us -- when we think we deserve more, that we are entitled to something better because what we have is not good enough... that is pride & pride is a sin.  That is what resulted in Lucifer (Satan) being cast out of heaven.  He believed he deserved more.  God gave us His One & Only Son!  Why in the world would He hold "good" things back from us?  He gave us His most prized possession.  Satan wants us to question God's love for us -- to get us to believe that God is holding something back.  God loves us with an everlasting love & He wants to protect us & give us good things.  We may think we know what is good & best for us. But God is our creator.  He knows everything.  Satan is the "father of lies."  He wants us to doubt God & to dwell on all the negatives in our lives.  God is TRUTH and He wants us to meditate on things that are true -- the truths found in God's Word.

God is God.  He knows all things.  We can only see things from a very short-term human perspective.  He is good -- ALL the time.  When I think, "Woe is me.  Nobody likes me.  God doesn't love me..."  I spiral down into despair --- my list of "poor, poor pitiful me" G--R--O--W--S.

Yesterday after church I worked out & then went grocery shopping.  By the time I got to the store it was late afternoon - around 4:00.  The ladies in the flower department were busy making Valentine's bouquets.  There was NO need for more.  There was already a ton.  At that late hour there is no way ALL those flowers, balloons, teddy bears would be purchased.  What a waste of time, but more so money...oney that can be spent in better ways. 

Me personally???  If someone were to buy me flowers I'd rather have it be a surprise on a day not associated with a holiday or even my birthday -- just because that person was thinking of me -- they did not feel pressure from "society" to buy me a gift.

Some of our holidays are quite bizarre.  Actually, one day should not be all that different from another.  Everyday we should show love and kindness to others (loved ones & enemies).  It seems so many of the holidays bring unneeded stress & depression to the lives of many.  As singles we can choose to get a tad bit melancholy on Valentine's Day or not.  I say choose because I am the one that decides what I am going to think about & dwell on.  Even couples can experience this from expectations they place on one another ("He didn't do this."  "All he bought me was__________.") 

The only ones that seem to benefit are the business industries.  Florists consider Feb. 14 as one of their best business days.  And all the candy... do we really need more candy especially in the name of love (not all that healthy of a choice.  I love sweets...I love candy, but many people consume way too much sugar).

Early yesterday morning a friend called to wish me "Happy Valentine's."  The real reason she called was seeking comfort (which is fine, I'm glad she feels she can call me when she is upset).  She was crying over her boyfriend. They had gotten into an argument -- seems to happen way too often.  She was convinced he was going to "end things with her."  This seems to be a pattern in their relationship.  I told her to give him some time (this happens at least once a month).  She told me it was different this time and was crying & crying -- her heart was aching.  For me, I'd rather have peace in my life than every other week be verbally & emotionally abused by someone that claims they love me.  Both of them are believers.  Anyway...we got off the phone and in less than an hour she called back sounding very elated because they had talked things out and things were good again.  I know all relationships aren't that way, but relationships take A LOT of work (spouse, friends, family members, colleagues...our LORD) -- we can't neglect it if we want it to flourish.

A couple of my married colleagues' husbands were out of town on business during the weekend. They were upset & "kind-of bugged."  Why?  Truly this day should not be different from any other day.  At least their husband has a job -- right now with the economy & many people out of work. 

The day after Valentine's I doubt the people in Haiti are lamenting over not receiving flowers or candy or not going out to dinner.  They are too busy trying to survive.  Flowers and candy are not needs in our lives.

As followers of Jesus we should set the examples, not turn to worldly ways of doing things.  "Do not let anyone lead you astray with empty philosophy and high sounding non-sense that comes from human thinking." (NLT Col. 2:8)  The world telling us to celebrate holidays by spending so much money or we have the right to expect others spend this amount of money on us is foolish.  The world telling us how to love.  The world tells us if someone loves us they would show it by spending money or doing something to make us feel extra special.  Sure different from... "Love is patient, kind, not jealous, not irritable, forgiving, keeps no record of wrong, demands nothing, endures through every circumstance..."  So, love is not demanding anything for Valentine's & when that loved one forgets "enduring" through that circumstance (*smile* -- haven't learned how to inject those cute little smiles).

Well...all the left-over candy goes on sale today so they can sell more candy for Easter, along with the bunnies and lambs.

 


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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 04:27:06 PM »

Great thoughts Joyous.

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Quote from: joyous
a friend called... She was crying over her boyfriend. They had gotten into an argument ...(this happens at least once a month). -- her heart was aching... Both of them are believers.

 Ouch. This couple needs your help.
 I know I mentioned this before but its worth repeating.

 Beg your friend to chart her fertility cycle especially by basal temperature.
 A few days before she menstruates,
 she needs to be alert to sudden feelings of dispair
 and noticing people hating her
 and clam up for at least three days.

 But better yet,
 you should advise her to consider Progesterone cream
 unless she would consider sustained lactation.

 Lactational Amenorhea (LAM) is only one
 of dozens of possible benefits for women of any age
 who make that worthy sacrifice for their families,
 and for hundreds of immune deficient new-borns.

Ive heard some good coming from these books
...Hormones and Your Life from Thirty to Fifty
and
Breakthrough Book on Natural Progesterone
 or you can hit the website of the late Dr. John Lee.

Please dont think Im saying its not up to men to be aware of this process also.
I just know this is a huge issue that needs some major air time.

And dont underestimate the power of frequent hugs.

Cheers.

Deanna

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 06:04:09 PM »

Ever notice how chocolate returns to all-time low prices after a holiday?


Holiday chocolates are best bought the day after, save a lot of dough that way!  ;)

Doesn't matter which holiday it is when one is searching for a hard to find flavor/variety though, but I found them -- coconut M&Ms!  They are tasty.  Unfortunately I had to order an entire case, so I've been passing them out to co-workers to avoid chocolate overload.   Yep, they're thanking me for the temptation...  ;D

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 09:33:11 PM »
Yum. I'd never heard of coconut M&Ms, but they sound really good. Next time you need a case and can't find them anywhere else, perhaps you can get them here:

Coconut M&Ms

 ;)
« Last Edit: February 28, 2010, 09:36:43 PM by Fern »

Rx

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Coconut MMs
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 09:56:58 PM »
 You could really make a lot of friends
 this way Deanna. :P

...use worldly wealth to gain friends for yourselves,
 so that when it
[the MMs] is gone,
you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings
.
Luke 16:9
« Last Edit: March 01, 2010, 11:33:52 PM by Rx »

Deanna

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 06:59:06 PM »
Yum. I'd never heard of coconut M&Ms, but they sound really good. Next time you need a case and can't find them anywhere else, perhaps you can get them here:

Coconut M&Ms



I actually bought them via Amazon.com, different store though!  It was one of those late-night things when I typed in a random search and they popped up.

They taste a bit like mini-Mounds candy, except there's no coconut chunks.  Just smooth inside.
 ;)
« Last Edit: March 01, 2010, 07:02:45 PM by Deanna »

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 07:01:52 PM »
You could really make a lot of friends
 this way Deanna. :P

It's payback for the co-worker who brings in goodies (like donuts) on Fridays when the boss is gone.  ;)

joyous

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2010, 02:43:56 PM »
Rx,

Actually, it is him that every other week "freaks out" about things.  It's not always the woman that is up & down with their emotions.  It is his behavior that puts her into a downward spiral of depression.  He is the moody one (again, it's not always the woman).  He tells her he has been called to singleness, yet he wants to spend all his spare time with her.  He'll tell her things that, IMO a man should not tell a woman if he doesn't plan for the relationship to go anywhere beyond "friendship" - a "sister & brother in the Lord" relationship.  He tells her things you don't tell just anyone - especially your "sister."  If he feels another person is implying or she is hinting that their relationship is leading to marriage he pulls back from her, tells her he is called to singleness & to quit pressuring him into marriage & then he points out all her faults.  In less than 24 hrs. he calls with an apology.

They spend A LOT of time together.  So much time that they only really do things with each other & don't really spend time with others - unless they are at a Bible Study.  But all their free time they are together & both of them have a lot of free time.

Everyone is "entitled" (so to speak) to their own opinion... so please others do not be hurt or offended by this or think I am judging or putting anyone down...  I'm not 100% sold out on bipolar (seen friends & family members do worse due to the medication when "diagnosed" with bipolar), but I do wonder about him.  There are some things that did happen to him when he was young & I think fear gets the best of him & he recoils when he doesn't know how to respond to things or those memories are triggered.  I think he needs to "deal" with the things that happened to him that cause him to respond this way.  He fluctuates with his emotions - can be argumentative (will say things to pick fights & will make her look like the "bad guy"), combative, & get angry easily.  Is there male PMS?  Even so, as believers our emotions should not be an excuse to treat others poorly or to act inappropriately.  When I am allowing my emotions to control me, I know I am in sin because I feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit & self-control is fruit of the Holy Spirit.  Our emotions are not the sin, it's what we do with those feelings (the behavior).    

If he truly believes he has been called to singleness then why does he spend so much time with her alone?  If he truly believes he has been called to singleness then why does he buy her very expensive gifts?  If he truly believes he has been called to singleness then why does he tell her how special she is to him and will put his hand on her knee or snuggle close to her?

Probably this is why I have no one in my life, but since they are NOT married and he is saying he has been called to singleness if I was in such a relationship that cause so much pain & was such a roller coaster & affecting my life in such a negative, hurtful way I'd end the relationship.  I feel she is allowing him to somewhat abusive to her.  I feel they need to decide one way or another where this relationship is leading.  She has been married twice and wants to be married again.  Both marriages were abusive & ended up with the husband being unfaithful.  I also feel she needs time to heal from her divorces.  I don't know how to tell her that.  I know it'd make her angry & she wouldn't want anything to do with me anymore because she'd feel I was being judgmental.  She is upset with others & won't call them anymore because they implied similar things.  I'm praying & hoping God will really show her.

I don't understand why people would rather be with someone who is mean to them than be alone (if you are not married yet).  I'd rather remain alone than be mistreated by the one that is supposed to love me & treat me well.  I think of the verse in Proverbs that talks about it is "better to dwell in a corner of a housetop than in a house shared with a contentious women." There can be contentious people in any relationship.  In this case, he is the contentious one.  She uses I Corinthians 13 as the reason why she stays with him.  He wants to be single, she wants to marry so there is no comitment on either part.   

I feel unloving, but I do get tired & hurt of I only hear from her when he has decided to retreat into his shell.  I'll call her for prayer for my family & we end up spending 95% of the time talking about how he has decided he needs his space because he has been called to singleness.

If he truly believes this then it appears he is defrauding her - giving her false hope.  Knowing she wants to remarry some day he is making it so if there was another man wanting to pursue her he wouldn't because he sees her being friends with another man.

I know my friend is emotional, but it is due to the circumstances in her life.  I know as believers we should not let our circumstances control our feelings.  When things are great between them she is very happy.  When things are not so great she wants to die.  I don't mean to sound so mean, judgmental, & opinionated but I think this an unhealthy relationship.  How do you tell someone that without deeply hurting them?  Is it worth all this turmoil - ultimately affecting their relationship with God (she'll get upset with the Lord)?

So, they don't need me or my help because I think they should call it quits.  It is a relationship going nowhere.  How do I tell them something that is none of my business - that would be mean & hurtful?  I feel if he truly believes he has been called to singleness then he is in sin spending all his free time with her - going on trips together - saying intimate things to her.  I feel she is allowing him to abuse her just so she isn't without a man.  She has friends so it's not about being "alone".  She is allowing her circumstances to control her feelings.  I don't think they need an unkind friend like me.  They need someone who would encourage them - know how to encourage them.  I don't know how since I think this is an unhealthy relationship.  Yes, relationships take work - need to spend time together.  Yes, in a relationship you can rub each other the wrong way - learn how to give & not be self-centered.  But when there seems to be more turmoil than joy (and you're not even married) I don't think that's from the Lord.  I think it's people trying to create something God doesn't want for you and then you get angry at Him for all the pain.  So, again I'm not the one to help them.  I'm too cold-hearted.

 

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2010, 04:48:38 PM »

Actually, it is him that every other week "freaks out" about things.  It's not always the woman that is up & down with their emotions.  It is his behavior that puts her into a downward spiral of depression.  He is the moody one (again, it's not always the woman).  He tells her he has been called to singleness, yet he wants to spend all his spare time with her.  He'll tell her things that, IMO a man should not tell a woman if he doesn't plan for the relationship to go anywhere beyond "friendship" - a "sister & brother in the Lord" relationship.  He tells her things you don't tell just anyone - especially your "sister."  If he feels another person is implying or she is hinting that their relationship is leading to marriage he pulls back from her, tells her he is called to singleness & to quit pressuring him into marriage & then he points out all her faults.  In less than 24 hrs. he calls with an apology.

Having been in a similar situation (years ago), she should RUN, not walk away... and no more contact.  Period.  I spent 1.5 years riding that emotional roller coaster.  It finally took me sitting out a semester + summer with ZERO contact from the other person (and lots of prayer) to fully get over the whole thing and be able to see the other person (we had many common acquaintances) without hopping back on the roller coaster.  I'm a bit wiser for the experience, but still carry the scars.

Rx

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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2010, 09:32:26 PM »
 :) Thanks for the specifics Joyous.
... Is there male PMS?  Even so, as believers our emotions should not be an excuse to treat others poorly or to act inappropriately.
 ...She has been married twice and wants to be married again.  Both marriages were abusive & ended up with the husband being unfaithful.
 ...I'm too cold-hearted.
As for the effects of various disorders, Im not certain,
but I claim that men have a "TYPE" of pms:

I think its worth warning married couples about that,
 whether they are married on paper,
or "joined together" the way Adam and Eve were. 
A small effort can hugely reduce the sudden changes
that SOME men are prone to after sex or masturbation;

Don't let your husband spend it all in one evening, if ever.
Just look at Amnon for what NOT to do as a couple.
 Tamar would have been wise to attempt "the grip" me thinks,
 and perhaps the meeting would have ended with less "evil",
as she put it.

 But now that you have mentioned that
your girl friend is already a polygamist, [in my veiw],
I strongly agree that they BOTH need to be clear that
it must only be an "agape" embrace.

 Fostering reconciliation, sacrificially,
is a foremost burden of Christian faith.
  Although first you should tell her the story about
 why Tamar was compelled to be remain single,
 after Amnon dumped her on the street.

 I doubt that you are cold hearted Joyous.
 Many of your posts demonstrate quite the opposite.

"Because he loves me,"
 says the LORD, "I will rescue him;
 I will protect him,
 for he acknowledges my name..."

Ps 91:14

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2010, 01:44:04 AM »
Hi Joyous,

First: you're not cold-hearted, so please stop telling yourself this lie.
Second: your friend called you, so apparently in her view her relationship is not something that's none of your business. If it were none of your business in her view, she wouldn't call you. If you feel she should end it once and for all, just tell her. It might hurt, but truth does hurt sometimes. That's life. It hurts more if you don't tell it. You can give advice, since that's what she asked for. Give her that advice. Your marital status doesn't change anything about that. You're still entitled to give that advice. However, she will have to take the decision. You can give advice and it's her decision to follow up on it or to ignore it.  Whatever decision she takes: don't take it personally.

joyous

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Re: Bear Chocolate - The Truth About Valentines
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2010, 12:00:05 PM »
Hi Dutchy,

God has gifted you the ability to encourage others.  Your replies are always so encouraging, thank you.

I am ashamed to say I have been avoiding her phone calls for the last week.  I know it's a lame excuse & maybe even sinful, but I have been too exhausted & too busy to talk to anyone lately.  I don't want to talk to her while I'm cleaning house or doing paper work for school -- that's rude & I really can't give my undivided attention.  Since their relationship is such a roller coaster, who knows it might be doing great if I call her today.

Have a great week.