Question about this forum

[C_Ruth]

Why is it that when I am on the home page and come to the forum via the "Discussion Forum" link in the left-hand column, the board recognizes me only as a guest (also if I click on the word "forum" in the list heading on the right-hand side)? but if I click on a specific topic in the right-hand list, the board then recognizes who I am without my needing to log in again?

[Fern]

I don't know why it's showing up that way. In the URL for each page, does the www show on some but not on others?

Is anyone else having the same problem?

[Rx]

Interesting. That sounds to my untrained ear
like an issue with cookie or cache settings.

Check your internet options settings
regaring reloading pages:
 NEVER, ONLY WHEN I VISIT, etc

*edit:
  further to what Fern was saying...
try removing any www. from your bookmarks
so your login subdomain falls into the
default used for her links. Also if you are
using https: rather than http this will also force
a second login: both "appear" to your browser as
different websites.
 IE:
https://singleness.org/
may not considered to be the same website as
http://singleness.org/
And perhaps niether of those is accepted to be the same as
http://www.singleness.org/
*

Fern,

We embedded cache control META tags
when we were debugging wwwboard,
but we werent using cookies.

The chief reason being,
that AOL and other huge ISP's and proxies
 tend to serve old pages (to conserve bandwidth)
every time they get a chance.

Mobile devices may suffer from this more?

 Not sure which is the correct syntax...

Code: [Select]

<meta http-equiv='Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache' />
<meta http-equiv='Cache-Control' content='no-save' />
<meta name="ROBOTS" content="NOARCHIVE">

the latter being incidentally respective
of the fact that the page changes frequently;
no sense in serving stale content.

Maybe other viewers HAVE deciphered w3 directives???

OTHERWISE,
you might try "force" refresh:
 Ctrl-F5
or you might just use the FREE UBUNTU operating system
and have all your Micro$oft troubles melt away.

Oh that one would give me drink of the water
of the well of Bethlehem, that is at the gate!

:)

[C_Ruth]

Thanks for your replies.  I had the problem more than once before I asked the question, but I haven't since.  If it comes up again, I will have to see if one of the suggestions fixes it.

[C_Ruth]

Fern,

In answer to your question.  The same problem popped up this morning, so I tried to look.  When you talk about the URL for each page, I assume you are referring to what shows at the bottom of the window when I place my mouse over the links.

It looks like the www is included if I hover over either the "forum discussion" link on the left or the word "forum" on the right.  But it is not if I am over one of the specific topics in the list.

Rx,

Your computer knowledge whizzes mostly over my head.  But you refer to removing the www from my bookmarks.  I am talking about what happens when I am sitting on the PS home page, so I don't think my bookmark has anything to do with it, does it? Or are you saying that if I take out the www where I list the address on my favorites, that it would still get me to the PS page, and the page would work differently after I am there?

[Rx]

Good work CR, looks like you are onto it.
 
 Dont be concerned that my
  computer knowledge whizzes past you:
 it whizzes past me also, mostly.

 The trick is to press on and fake it out.

 So... the two links that you said to Fern were www
 are "relative" links, and the two you said were not www
 are "absolute" links.  VERY good information.

 If you mouse over a relative link it is relative to the
address of the page you are presently browsing.

 So I think you must start out on

http://www.singleness.org/
or
http://www.singleness.org/index.shtml

 and to get there
you must have followed a link
(from your history or bookmark or favorite),
that contains the www.

 This is totally understandable since the
 "Search Engine Spiders" like Google,
 have, or have HAD the habit of listing
 both the www folder and the public folder
 of any website they find. Its a quirk with
 the way Linux and Apache interact
 with the Web Crawlers, I guess.

 Unless there is some new assumption built into
 your browser that Im not aware of,
 since it IS your browser that
 converts the relative links into a useful address.

 So... I presently assume it IS a  problem
 with your having the www
  where you list the address...

 whereever it is that you visit Singleness.org from ...
  whether from your browser history ...
 or favorites  (book marks) ...
 or some folk may even have it as their default "Start" page ...
 and some visit from links on other websites ...
 or a link on a search engine like Altavista or Yahoo or Dogpile...

 The latter two we have little control over.

 Its a blessing when  folk come forward
 with bugs they find when using a website,
 even if it seems uphill at times.

 Really grand to see you posting.


Whom shall he teach knowledge? and
 whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
 them that are weaned from the milk,
 and drawn from the breasts.

For precept must be upon precept,
 precept upon precept; line upon line,
 line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

For with stammering lips and
 another tongue will he speak to this people.
Isaiah

[C_Ruth]

I took off the www from the address in my favorites, and came to PS without it.  That did make a difference in the URLs for the forum links.  They now show the address without the www, the same as the individual topics do.  But it didn't make any difference in how they act.  If I come to the discussion forum via either "forum" link, it thinks I'm a guest.  But if I come in by way of a topic, it knows me.

At least now I know how to get here in an identified way.  When I first had trouble not always being logged in, I didn't know what made the difference.

[Rx]

... When I first had trouble not always being logged in,
I didn't know what made the difference.

 You are pretty sharp, sluthing that out. 

 I'll stick with the caching theory about the remaining snag,
 and hopefully some future work by Fern will clear that up,
 adding to the existing meta tags:

 The individual topics have "robots" content="noindex" meta tags.
 Perhaps that status is enuf to steer you clear of
 the proxy cached copy of the unlogged page. Very convoluted at times.

 For I determined not to know any thing among you,
 save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Paul