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Are or were you an UN-wed Christian FEMALE taking birth control meds?

Yes, for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.
Yes, only to regulate my monthly cycle / breast development / etc.
No, but I date (dated) a Christian girl who does  (did), to prevent pregnancy.
No.
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Author Topic: Infertile Singleness  (Read 471 times)

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Rx

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Infertile Singleness
« on: July 04, 2010, 04:55:30 PM »
Hm.  It just hit me today that some single Christians...
use contraceptive drugs. Color me ignorant.

You have to vote first, so you dont feel biased by the result.
You cant change your vote.
You have much LESS than 120 days to decide.  ;)
 Don't alter your answer based on this scripture:

You shall not sow your vineyard with two kinds of seed...


Deanna

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Re: Infertile Singleness
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2010, 07:12:16 AM »
Tried to vote, but kept getting error messages.  I'm option #2 -- medical issues.  At 38, the Dr thinks I'm too young, and my parts aren't quite messed up enough for a hysterectomy, the pill is supposed to keep things at "status quo".   :o   ::)

Rx

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Re: Infertile Singleness
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2010, 09:39:02 PM »
  :o   ::)
:)
If you can see the results, your entry  likely registered in spite of the glitchy warnings.

 "Contraceptives",  so called,  are a real danger for more people than just teens.  The doctor may SAY they are giving a BCP to stabilize things, but I wonder how often abstinence changes to [ what  I think the bible calls]  marriage, simply based on the "new freedom".

 In fact, it's obviously true for any form of sterilization, including condoms.

Perhaps this is another big plus for exclusively progesterone as a therapy, over  a combination with estrogen, where possible.

And perhaps this is another plus for seriously conservative attire, over attire which ignores how provocative the female form is otherwise.  Lots of factors in that equation no doubt. I suppose its enough to be too isolated, without any provocation, as cruel as that may be.

He that loveth his brother abideth in the light,
 and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

Deanna

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Re: Infertile Singleness
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 04:49:15 PM »
:)
If you can see the results, your entry  likely registered in spite of the glitchy warnings.

 "Contraceptives",  so called,  are a real danger for more people than just teens.  The doctor may SAY they are giving a BCP to stabilize things, but I wonder how often abstinence changes to [ what  I think the bible calls]  marriage, simply based on the "new freedom".

I don't see any results, just the poll.

As for keeping things "stable" (TMI warning), taking daily hormones is much better than dealing with "aunt flo" for 2-3 months at a time (yep... Every. Single. Day.) combined with having my insides scraped out every few years to remove endometrial tissue from places it doesn't belong.  I haven't had much desire to date for almost 4 years (not content with singleness, I've given up), much less for anything more... so its definitely not being used as a "new freedom".

Rx

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Liberation
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 08:53:26 PM »
I don't see any results, just the poll
hm.  your vote MAY have registered, tho it seems less likely. I'd have to know more about smf to suggest a fix.

so its definitely not being used as a "new freedom"

I hope you didnt read me as suggesting you would. Im "somewhat" familiar with the type of struggle you are describing.  Sometiimes it seems medical intervention is as cruel as the ailment. I  will pray you see complete liberation, and from the highest source.

My alarm regards the more "optional" cases of infertility,  and in some cases even the temporary infertility caused by pregnancy and lactation.  Definitely a cause of much temptation and failure, and another topic for continual prayer.


put on the Lord Jesus Christ,
 and make no provision for the flesh


Deanna

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Re: Infertile Singleness
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 05:24:34 PM »
I hope you didnt read me as suggesting you would. Im "somewhat" familiar with the type of struggle you are describing.  Sometiimes it seems medical intervention is as cruel as the ailment. I  will pray you see complete liberation, and from the highest source.

I've already told my Dr that I'm counting the days until menopause!  I've been on a roulette wheel of sorts when it comes to the hormones.  Seems the newer, lower dose ones don't work well, so I take an older version.  Bad -- are the higher levels potentially doing more damage?  Good -- I feel more "normal" now than I have in at least 10 years  *and* the older pills are cheap, just under $18 (USD) for a 3 month supply (new was $105 for the same amount).  If only I could get my allergy meds so cheaply...

Rx

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Re: Infertile Singleness
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2010, 09:48:59 PM »
are the higher levels potentially doing more damage?
I understand your concern. I'm not a doctor, nor female by any means, but somehow I ended up with a sail full of wind from the past that it  has taken me.

:)  ?? ( I think that sentence is suffering from a dangling conjunctive something-izm. Fern could tell you. *Bates his hook with a grasshopper* ).   :P

Perhaps I should echo your "TOO MUCH INFORMATION" warning for this thread:

Seriously again, I urge "older" gals to avoid long term use of estrogen whenever possible, simply because of its reputed effect on cell growth.  Extensive use of some soy products included.  And I'm wondering about beef and chicken also lately... I need to look into that:  I have a feeling the enemy is bringing about the "ESTROGENIZATION of the western world" from many angles.

 The alternative I urge is progesterone, which can be made from natural sources, and gotten over the counter readily, which is "bio identical" to  what is produced in your body.  Estrogen evidently "multiplies" the effect of progesterone, and is thus... a cheap fix to line the pockets of drug makers, in my opinion:  But Im sure some chemist can fill a page with mumbo jumbo that would make it preferable for even an MD  to buy the synthetic product: fearing lawsuits.

I know 20mg of progesterone cream provides profound therapeutic relief for PMS and symptoms of pre-menopause in the ten years preceeding normal completion of menopause.  I have repeatedly observed this.

I also therefore urge folks to consider this for girls that have JUST given birth, because of the HUGE drop of  progesterone from what they are getting imediately prior to birth.  ( I think I read that it drops from something like 600 mg/day after the placenta is delivered, to about 20 ?) It's no suprize that post partum depression occurs.

I also wonder about events and "habits" that might inhibit the natural suffiience of those hormones: how about your air, water, meat supply, stress factors, fitness / circulation and so on...  maybe worth looking into.

Along those lines, and regarding the "scraping" you mentioned: I believe lactation is a natural source of cleansing contractions.  It has been found to reduce by up to "21 percent"  the risk of ovarian cancer, and breast cancer by up to 28 percent.  "... the beneficial impact lasts for decades".   Others claim that "Increased levels of oxytocin stimulate postpartum uterine contractions, minimizing blood loss and encouraging rapid uterine toning."  Why shouldnt that also be proportionately true for menstrual issues?

Maybe Im reading more into this than is relevant.  For singles of course, I seroiusly dont think its the actual lactation that matters, since the prolactin and oxytocin are released by virtue of the stimulation.

  Maybe everyone should come to the Rockies where several thousand miles of atlantic air tumble over the snow caps into my back yard. Bring a wheel barrel full of some comodity or other:  Self esteem perhaps, or candle wax, which are in short supply in my bunker, considering the looming...  long winter.

... the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him....
...The foolish ones said to the wise
,
 'Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out...'
 Thy word is a lamp...

Disclaimer: I didnt spell check this; Therefore, I am not liable for any mis-information, being a heavy duty truck mechanic with 30 years experience.

 


ThyWillBeDone

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Re: Infertile Singleness
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2010, 04:48:38 PM »
No offense, RX, but I think you're taking that verse *WAY* out of context. 

I've known women who use it for medical reasons, & have no problem with it.
(just as Deanna does)