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Johnny1979

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Well i was married at 23 spearated at 27 now in family court over a custod battle for my kids.
We married but only to find out we have so many differences. She is in to the Contemporary church idiology and Im in well was in to the sound doctirine of the early church fathers. Marriage turned out to be nothing more than a mistake for me. I did not have what it took to deal with someone from a home of violence drugs and sexual abuse. Her personality of reufisning to take advice was something i just could not bare any more and I began to spite her through adultery. In time when i tried to make right with her it was too late she just as angry and bitter over the whole being marrried thing as I was. I regret what I have done I have seen that I have broken her spirituality sad to say she does not even know it. When we had a discussion on divorce and remarriage being sins she said she will take her chances at the Judgment seat. I have come to realized that people who wana walk off to a road of perdition and they dont wana hear you just gotta lettem find out on their own.  As for Me Im starting to realized hey may be I never was a christian after all I just didnt  have the faith to deal with such a gauntlet such as marriage let alone giving my hopes dreams and desires to follow a life time of pain and trials in  Christ I got the head knowledge but I dont have the endurances or faith to go through every day trusting him. Especially with the fact that barley anyone who claims to christian belives in the sound doctrine of Jesus christ anymore or on what the bible really says about repentance and divorce and remarriage. Never been really good facing challenges or having faith in Someone that bascially no one really believes or really loves. Besides the real Jesus the majority of the human population either falss away or end up hating him . Im sorry i cant deal with that anymore. Fmaily COurt really draining and I nolonger pray unless ti is something that i really need. Im dting no and it keeps me sane I dont have nay real christian friends so and ebing single for the rest fo my life is a fight I will not win there are time when i hear ods vioce i can do all things in christ which strentghens me but to be honest on a human level i cant deal with that day to day i have dreams and hope that i can be able to finish college hava a good job and make somehting out of my slef thats is what keeps me going. I have tried to have faith and I just say forget it and do me

Rx

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carry it thru...
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 12:04:23 AM »

Welcome to the discussion board. Thanks for posting.

A ton of folk reading here can relate to your post; personally for some, and infact, there are few reading here who havent been effected directly by the sort of struggle you are describing, at least once.

Hang in there. Finish the race.

"...I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.... " Philippians 1:6




Johnny1979

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Re: Dealing with marrying young, God, Divorce, and Remarriage
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 05:55:08 AM »
Thats the thing this is the rest of my life with no one I can share it with I do not havethat forrtitude day to day. Im sorry I dont need that stress every day of my life Im thinking really hard about giving my wife sole custody which she wants but I also want to sign over my rights as well.
I dont do well under this. Thats why I date. He (Jesus) can get mad at me but he knew me im not blaming him Im just keeping it real. Whatever made him think I was good for this life is beyond me I usually fall a part when it comes to challenges this is one of them.
I let him down but what did you expect.

Rx

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Dealing With Today
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 10:12:37 AM »
I let him down but what did you expect.

 The only thing you can offer the Lord is today.  You dont have yesterday, and you dont have tommorrow.

 If your wife has been chaste until now, then your primary duty as a Christian is reconcilation. Even if you can ignore your MORAL duty to your child to humble yourselves and  keep it together. As broken as it is however, I suggest you start with simple faithfulness, but do not grovel unless you want to repel her even more.  You are called to peace.

Do you really pray for your family? Try it, and never stop.  Get your focus off your own needs. You are a living sacrifice: Keep your word.

 You really have to be careful not to justify sin, brother.  NO problem if you want to walk down the wide road to certain destruction.  I suggest you take ONE MINIT AT A TIME.

"God is faithful,
who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able;
 but will with the temptation also make a way to escape,
 that ye may be able to bear it
."

 1 Corinthians 10:13


Johnny1979

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Re: Dealing with marrying young, God, Divorce, and Remarriage
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 08:08:36 PM »
She has a boyfreind now from what I am told by family and friends. She thinks she is entitles to remarry again since she believes adultery is ok to get a divorce (LOL)
I dont justify sin. However human beings can oly take so much if their in a unequally yoke of a marriage. I date to stay sane and it works. God does not help he just tells u to take a beating and keep on ticking. Like I said before I nolonger have the strength for that! We have been separated for 3 years! I do not see any hope in sight. She wants full custody of our two children. Please tell someone else about hanging in there. IF I dont see change for get it!
I tried to make amends she wanted to end it becasue of the cheating due to her refusal to respect me as a man and listen to sound advice that was given to her when i tried to reaosn with her. I know as a christian you supose to take it when is enough enough! When your with someone who you tried to make amends when the everyone tells you to move on! TELL ME! PLEASE! Im suppose to believe in a GOSPEL NO ONE BELIEVES IN! ANSWER THAT! EVEN MY SPOUSE WHOSE MY WIFE TILL THE DAY I DIE ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE! HUH EXPLAIN THAT!
I am not waiting on the LORD I pray to get me through the day anything else I dont care for anymore! Oh my needs is all I have!
Dating
is something that keeps me alive not Jesus when it comes to my situation.
Whne i remarry or find the one for me maybe ill think about Praying to God fatihfully again
Oh im stuck in a house where my own relative dont belive in the gosple sorry but Im not obeying the LORD in period not when the odds are stacked against you like this 

Johnny1979

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Re: Dealing with marrying young, God, Divorce, and Remarriage
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 05:00:46 PM »
Faithful for what it my marriage is shot! I am sorry but it is rough and Im dating thats why! God is great when u have no one in your life but him. It is easier to take one trials. I have two kids that i have considered not being in their life. My wife want a new start so bad she wants to have full custody. God is not there ok when I was living it it jsut got harder. The zodiac is a better guide to finding relationship comaptiblity than putting faith in God in relationship by just accepting them for who they and pray it works wish I never got married used to the zodiac to find a christian mate than thank God for my mate. Life woudl of have been easier (sigh)

ThyWillBeDone

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Re: Dealing with marrying young, God, Divorce, and Remarriage
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2010, 01:03:19 PM »
Johnny,


Ok, if I'm reading your posts right, you were having marriage problems, & then you were unfaithful to her, correct?

I posted a reply to you in another section, about divorce, with verses included.  (that was before I read this post) I won't add to that, unless I need to.   But, they're avail upon request.   In short, your cheating/adultery is grounds for divorce---NOT that she *HAS* to, but she does have that Biblical option.    Remember where the Bible says, that we reap what we sow?    There are consequences for sin, sometimes even in this life.
Have you gone to her, confessed your sin, & sought reconciliation?
Confessing sins is not easy, but, the Bible commands it.   I would also offer to get counseling, if I was you.   I would highly recommend both of you get family counseling, if she is willing.
Otherwise, even if she were willing to reconcile to you, & heal the marriage, you'd still be in similar problems.

The *MOST* important thing you can do right now, *REGARDLESS* of what she chooses to do (remember, we don't control other people, *ONLY* ourselves!) is get right with God.

Dating non-Christians, & those who profess, but don't follow Christ, will only take you further away from Jesus.     Are you familiar with the warnings Proverbs gives men, about women?   A woman can help you stay true to Jesus, *OR*, she can lead you away from Him, if you let her.
God is still there, but, hopefully you know, that many places the Bible talks about how sin separates us from God.   God is a Holy God, & He cannot be in the presence of sin.   If you want to be close to Him again, & have Him close to you again, you need to do your part, to get right with Him.

Read James 4:
"4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, "The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously"?
6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: "God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble."
7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. "

Look at the order there.  Don't expect to be a friend of the world, & a friend of God, at the same time.     (remember, no man can serve 2 masters?)
We must humble ourselves; forsake the world; Submit to God (that means obeying His commands) THEN resist the Devil; THEN Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.
See the order?

RX is right----you can't change the past----NONE of us can.  (God knows, there's some things in my life, I wish I could change!) 
All you can change, all you can control, is *TODAY*. 
I love the Psalms:
"6 Oh come, let us worship and bow down; Let us kneel before the Lord our Maker.
7 For He is our God, And we are the people of His pasture, And the sheep of His hand. Today, if you will hear His voice:
8 "Do not harden your hearts, as in the rebellion, As in the day of trial in the wilderness."
(Psalms 95) 
In the past, you have hardened your heart against God.   BUT, it is not too late!!!   TODAY, can be different.   TODAY, you can make a different choice.     The CHOICE IS YOURS.

BTW, when I start feeling sorry for myself, when I start thinking woe is me, I'm single & alone & my life sucks, etc etc etc,  sometimes I like to read Hebrews 11 & 12.    (some people think 11 is a good chapter, but never get to 12---Remember, the translators put in the chapters, NOT the writer!

(this is a small excerpt:)
"35 Women received their dead raised to life again. And others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection.
36 Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment.
37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented
38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.
39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise,
40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us.

WOW!  Did you get all that???   You & I buddy, we have it *EASY*!!!

But wait, don't stop, there's MORE:
"1 Therefore we also  (who?, US!!!), since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,    (HOW are we to run???   WITH ENDURANCE!!!  Remember what Jesus said?   "But he who endures to the end will be saved."  [Matt 10:22]  Rx is right----FINISH the race.   Don't give up now!!!  I have in my notes about this verse:  "[THE CHRISTIAN LIFE IS NOT A SPRINT!!!
It's a MARATHON
!!! ]"

Keep reading:

2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith,
(this is *HOW* we are to finish the race----God tells us right here!   We have to keep our eyes on JESUS!!!) 

who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross,   (talk about suffering!) despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls.
4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin.
[Chapter 12---intro.]

 I hope that helps brother.    You have friends on this board who care about you.  Keep your eyes on Jesus.   Stay close to Him.   In this life, sometimes HE is all we have, & in the next, He alone, is the one we will give account to.

Johnny1979

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Re: Dealing with marrying young, God, Divorce, and Remarriage
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 07:18:42 AM »

ThyWill be Done get your facts striaght! Sorry my friend but from the beginning  married is a covenant for life! marriage reflects Christs relationahip with his bride the CHURCH ( those bornagain obeidant ad faithful believers in Christ)
so she cant divrce than GOd has no problems divorcing us from his faith! Moses gavethe bill of Divorce due to the hardness of the people of Isreal.  We dont have the option do divorce
oh yeah read Romans chapter 7 about a woman marrying a man when her spouse is still aive!
Jesus said Moses gave the bill of divorce but from the begining it was not so!
Try seeking thr truth instead of the Contemporary crap they feed you in Church!LOL!

Johnny1979

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Re: Dealing with marrying young, God, Divorce, and Remarriage
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 07:25:20 AM »
This is for Thyne oh yeah I cheated on her for site due to the fact that she was not a submissive woman as I was being the man of God tryin to live the way GOd wanted me to live as a family man. I regret cheating on her and not being patient enough to put up with her ignorance aswell as her tongue.Oh according to the bible if dont want to reconcile my and I hve to live a celibate life-style.
As for giving me scripture get it straigh before me or anyone else especially marriage becuase rght now she has a boyfriend and I gota girlfriend (we both are hell bound we are committing adultery on eachother  according to the bible)

ThyWillBeDone

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Re: Dealing with marrying young, God, Divorce, and Remarriage
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2010, 06:03:54 PM »
The same passages that talk about adultery & divorce, also talk about the exception:
"9 "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery."
[Matt 19]

"32 "But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery. "
[Matt 5]

This isn't from any church, (I've been down that road!) but, straight from the Word of God.   What you choose to do with it, is up to you.

I'm not saying Jesus *RECOMMENDED* divorce in such cases, just that He taught that it was ALLOWED/permissible then.
IMHO, the most loving thing, would be to forgive, & attempt to reconcile, but, not everyone is that loving & forgiving;   Once trust is broken, to that extent, it can be very difficult, if not impossible, to restore it.
For the record though, most divorces I know of, do not have such Biblical cause.

Again, I don't think the issue should be, will she accept you back, I think the issue here is, are you right with God?   Have you confessed your sin, & reconciled yourself to Him?    You seem to know the Bible---do you love & fear God, or, are they just a bunch of rules to you, to follow, or not follow, as you see fit?

As with the rich man----this night, God could require your soul from you---are you ready???

Let me echo what I said before:
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The *MOST* important thing you can do right now, *REGARDLESS* of what she chooses to do (remember, we don't control other people, *ONLY* ourselves!) is get right with God.