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Daniela

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Online dating
« on: May 08, 2010, 11:28:14 AM »
Hello my fellow singles,

I would like to get some opinions, comments, testimonies etc. from you concerning your experiences (or the experiences of people you know) with online dating. Living in a country with very few people belonging to my denomination, I came to the conclusion that it's not very likely for me to be provided with a husband if I just sit and wait. So I signed up at several Christian dating sites. Nothing came about so far, but I'm still hoping of course. Yet I do see the risks and disadvantages of getting to know somebody online, and then maybe starting a long-distance relationship. What do you think?

Rx

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 12:03:37 PM »
First, let me say that I understand that MOTHER"s DAY
"feels more like a day of judgement against all women who are not mothers",
 and likely lends compulsion to the pursuit of a husband.

 Paul warned sternly, in a letter to the Corinthians, that
"... It is good for a man not to marry.
 But since there is so much immorality,
each man should have his own wife,
 and each woman her own husband
..."

Western society is right in line with the society of Corinth,
and internet relationships strongly tend to become the OPPOSITE
 to the fulfillment of the command to have " YOUR OWN HUSBAND":

Long distance intimacy is a trap that distances people from many of the true values of having their own spouse, and often  exacerbates the tendency towards immorality, since the denial of fulfillment WITH the heat of intimacy is the worst possible scenario. At least as bad as any Corinthian engaged.

Not sure if you've read any PS archives, but Kelvin Smith had a good rule for himself. Namely, he resolved not to date outside a 50 mile radius, so that his relationships could be in person. Sure enuf, it seems he quickly disappeared from the singleness list after that.

I strongly suggest that you take care to practice seriously conservative rules of engagement, that apply to any Christian courtship, even though SOME of the aspects, like pregnancy, might not seem like directly emanant threats, when on-line. Purity and godly character tend to blur with fornication when the illusion of commitment gets a grip on you. The consummation of marriage is where the line of commitment is crossed: And those who have not committed to you are outside of Paul's red caution circle.

Of course a prerequisite to all this,
is that the act of God is not sin, and can not be forgiven:
Non-virgins are already joined until death.

"...he is to marry a virgin of his own people..."
 - The Lord Who Sanctifies Him

But surely there is something higher than reaping a kernel when you can have a whole cob. :)


Hawk

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2010, 11:37:50 PM »
What country are you in? From an American perspective, go for it. Make sure you have good pictures, have a solid profile and are familiar with the other guidelines for safety. I know of at least one person who met his future wife on a major dating site that rhymes with scratch. Don't worry about denomination because that will limit the possibilities unnecessarily. Forget the long-distance thing. Stay within easy visiting distance.
Sure, it often doesn't work out. It has its drawbacks. One of the great advantages is that you can meet people outside of your social circle, which eliminates some of the awkwardness if things don't work out.
I like the idea of matchmaking services. Some people don't and have expressed their skepticism on this forum. The biggest drawback is the price. The biggest advantage is there will be dates.
There's an amusing story out there about outsourcing of online dating searches. People are too busy to search for themselves, so they hire somebody to do it for them. I bet Rx would have something to say about that.
Keep a positive attitude and try to have fun with it.

Rx

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2010, 12:52:53 PM »

...Keep a positive attitude and try to have fun with it.


I think sometimes a solution seems unattainable
 because we have such a dogmatic veiw of what our Creator is capable of.

I guess I do think the solutions MEN can provide are rather... tainted.

Present yourself as a sacrifice first, and wait for the dawn of a new day.

...all you who light fires
       and provide yourselves with flaming torches,
       go, walk in the light of your fires
       and of the torches you have set ablaze.
       This is what you shall receive from my hand:
       You will lie down in torment.
Isaiah 50:11

God makes a home for the lonely;
He leads out the prisoners into prosperity,
Only the rebellious dwell in a parched land.
Psalm 68:6

...those who were hungry cease to hunger.
Even the barren gives birth to seven,
But she who has many children languishes.
1 Samuel 2:5

Shout for joy, O barren one, you who have borne no child;
Break forth into joyful shouting and cry aloud,
 you who have not travailed;
For the sons of the desolate one will be more numerous
Than the sons of the married woman," says the LORD.
Isaiah 54:1 and Galatians 4:27

It will no longer be said to you, "Forsaken,"
Nor to your land will it any longer be said, "Desolate";
But you will be called, "My delight is in her,"
And your land, "Married";
For the LORD delights in you,
And to Him your land will be married.
For as a young man marries a virgin,
So your sons will marry you;
And as the bridegroom rejoices over the bride,
So your God will rejoice over you.
Isaiah 62:4-5

"I will rejoice over them to do them good
 and will faithfully plant them in this land
 with all My heart and with all My soul.
Jeremiah 32:41

The children of whom you were bereaved
 will yet say in your ears,
         'The place is too cramped for me;
         Make room for me that I may live here.'
Isaiah 49:20


"I will betroth you to Me forever;
Yes, I will betroth you to Me in righteousness and in justice,
In lovingkindness and in compassion,
And I will betroth you to Me in faithfulness.
Then you will know the LORD.
Hosea 2:19-20


"The LORD your God is in your midst,
A victorious warrior
He will exult over you with joy,
He will be quiet in His love,
He will rejoice over you with shouts of joy.
Zephaniah 3:17

Then the LORD your God will make you most prosperous
 in all the work of your hands
 and in the fruit of your womb,
 the young of your livestock
 and the crops of your land.
The LORD will again delight in you and make you prosperous,
 just as he delighted in your fathers,
 if you obey the LORD your God
 and keep his commands and decrees
 that are written in this Book of the Law
 and turn to the LORD your God with all your heart
 and with all your soul.
Deuteronomy 30:9


"I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

psalm100

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 03:06:17 PM »
I see nothing wrong with using an online dating service. I have even considered doing so myself. You have to use much discernment. Try to make a profile with dating services that have a good reputation. No sleezy dating services. Of course, never give out your personal info such as your home address or your job location. I have heard that people met their spouses by using a dating service. Many times singles are told to wait on the Lord, but I believe you have to be procactive. And using a dating service would be considered as being proactive. Also consider your location to other singles. You don't want to meet someone who lives 400 or 500 miles away.

esther

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 09:35:53 AM »
Well, for me I thing using a dating site is wrong. Do you know who you are meting? Not everyone on those sites are Christians. Waiting on God is the best. Celebrate being single. It’s one of the best times in your life. God will send the right person in His time. 

Johnny1979

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 05:49:22 AM »
Hmmm well I dunno well judging by knowing God through the bible it seems to me that its just best to let God have his way if you can endure it. After all there are not many suitable people who can actually call themsleves Christians these days alot are just good church goers.
According to the bible married people will face hard times. Think carefuly about marriage its till the day you die.

SarahLee

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 08:29:59 AM »
I met a guy through hisholyspace.com, named Ken, who was a Christian and it seemed like the Lord was blessing it.  My church at the time was hosting a Christian conference and he was asked to set up a book table.  He was an author of several books dealing with post flood history, ancient paganism, etc.  We became friends and for a year and a half corresponded with one another.  We then started dating (or as he called it courting) for a year.  Here is the problem with online dating.  You're not getting a real picture of who this person is at all.  Ken lived in Kansas, I live in Iowa.  A relationship just can't last with that much distance in between.  In my case, it wasn't the distance that killed the relationship it was the fact that Ken enjoyed my mind intellectually but did not enjoy me in person.  I will admit the same.  I wasn't really attracted to him outside of his mind.  I hate to say it but a good relationship has to be more than just the mind.  It also has to be an attraction in spirit and body as well.  Ken liked to talk to me on the phone, through e-mails, etc. but when it came to the one on one stuff, he just wasn't there.  Last month, I finally ended the relationship because it became clear that marriage was not something he even had in mind.  He was content with a long distance relationship.  I, on the other hand, want a family and to be a wife and helpmate to a man that will love me all the way around, not just my mind!

One of my Aunts has been doing the online thing for several years now and has yet to meet a man that is anything like his profile says.  And she's gone out with more than 50 different men during these last several years.  It doesn't seem to work for her at all but she keeps trying and hoping.  She's often spoken of how they will seem really awesome on paper but when they go out, they end up being nothing like what they put on there.  That is one of the problems with online dating, you can say anything about yourself.  Doesn't mean it's true and if we're honest, we often think of ourselves in ways that aren't always accurate.  These men weren't necessarily lying but they were glossing over themselves in these ads.  And I'm sure my Aunt has done the exact same thing!  When you do those ads, you're wanting to put on a good picture so that you'll be "picked" out of the hundreds of other ads.

Plus we have to be honest, it's dangerous.  We live in a world today that is filled with Psychos.  I work at a men's prison and I could tell you stories that would turn you white!  Like I said, you can say anything in an ad and there are people out there, that put ads out there with the intention of finding a victim.

Can you meet your future husband/wife through online dating?  Sure, anything is possible.  Is it something we should really do? You know, I don't know.  There is a fine line there of trusting that God will bring that person to you and you on the other hand forcing YOUR will upon a situation.  I do know one thing after my experience.  You have to be relatively close for your relationship to work because you have to be with that person to get a real picture of who they are!! 

In the end, I would have to say that it is safer to wait upon the Lord for him to bring someone to you instead of actively "hunting" for someone.  Now that could come through the internet but it would be even better if that someone came strolling through the doors of your home church!
"Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised."

Rx

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 09:34:35 AM »
One of my Aunts has ... gone out with more than 50 different men during these last several years.


 Wow SL.  She's been thru the ringer and hung out to dry.

 I cant help but wonder what that does to someones self-esteem, even if they feel they can afford the milage other ways. I wonder if it could make them a hard "militant" in this pursuit.

I also wonder why people expect the sacrifices to finding an acceptable companion should be any different from the sacrifices within marriage itself: if someone feels there is some criteria which makes ANY partner intolerable, isn't that a future death sentence, no matter how it FEELS  presently? Is the commitment to a relationship based on some touchy "feel good" after-glow stuff?

I sure hope God doesnt judge "the bride" that way. We'll be half way to heaven and get booted into the desicating vacuum of space... like someone we know.

...The grave below is all astir
       to meet you at your coming...
O morning star, son of the dawn!
       You have been cast down to the earth
...

 Im reminded about June 6, 2012 and

 ...a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea...

seemingly unrelated: no evident orbit-perpendicular* launch mechanism.
Could bring new meaning to the term "bridal shower".

*hint?


SarahLee

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 08:50:30 AM »
She doesn't have very much self-worth.  It's amazing really because she is beautiful, not just physically (which is very true too) but in her nature.  It's like I said, though.  When you're creating a profile for one of those places you greatly emphasize yourself to where you sound awesome because you want people to notice your ad above another persons.  It's very competitive.  An example of this would be someone that says in their ad "I like hiking, mountain climbing, camping, etc." and in reality they've never done any of those things but would like to someday.  So when you read it, you think, okay, this person is a very active and energetic person.  Then when you go and meet the person, they turn out to be an "E-or" with very little motivation.  Believe it or not, this is more often the case than not.

I will admit, I've been tempted to try it again.  I hate being sngle, absolutely hate it.  However, when I think about what all my aunt has been through and then question my own faith, "Am I really trusting God to bring someone to me?" Then I don't do it because in a way, I think if I do then it is all me and not the Lord.
"Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised."

Rx

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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 06:43:23 PM »

I hate being sngle, absolutely hate it.

Few Christians are wired to lead "normal North American" lives it seems.

 The more intense the complications of singleness, the greater the need to find a mission that is grand enough to swallow up every waking breath of that passion. 

 Why not take a steriliation course on-line and GO YE for the practicum phase on a hospital ship?  :)

pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness



Johnny1979

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 01:51:28 AM »
I'm soon to be divorced I have thought about being celebate I cant do I was going nuts then I started dating I felt better I'm talking to someone online she seems k we have a lot in common its strange when i was with the lord I was losing it but now that on dating I feel better

lizziejane

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2010, 12:00:51 AM »
 :) Great idea. I've been on line for several months and I have met 8 Christian men on a NON Christian website. I just made sure I had great photos (first impressions do matter) and was quite clear that I was looking for a man who had a relationship with God. Emailing sorts out a lot of questions, but I suggest not doing that for too long as you can build up a picture of someone that is very incorrect. So, email for a few days and arrange to meet on the weekend, in a cafe that you are very familiar with, let your sister or someone you trust know where you are so they can text you to see if you are ok. Keep the 'date' short - no longer than an hour, and only meet during the day. I would suggest not dating anyone who lives in another city, and I wouldn't even bother replying to messages from someone who has no photo. Many married men are on these sites. You go girl, and may God help you along the way. even if you don't find some one through that means, it's still a lot of fun (but nervewracking I suppose) and you sure work out fast what you like and don't like in a prospective partner.

ThyWillBeDone

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2010, 08:32:36 PM »
Having had some online dating experience myself, I 2nd Hawk:     If you're serious, go for it.      (I could give you lots of personal tips/pointers  if you want to contact me---I'll address this response to the issue of "to do, or not to do")   As to doing it, or not, I've often wondered about one of the verses quoted a lot by singles (wonder what RX would say to this one)
"He who finds a wife finds a good thing, And obtains favor from the Lord."
(Proverbs 18:22) 

Some have taken this verse, & focused on the "wife being a good thing;" others have talked about the favor from God one receives with marriage;   One thing I have *NOT* heard a lot about, is the first part:
"He who FINDS a wife
If one desires to *FIND* something, what must one do???   
The Bible itself, says, "SEEK, & you will find."  [Matt 7:7]
While the Bible talks about waiting upon the Lord, & I believe that to be a good thing, nowhere that I know of, is it talking about it in connection with finding a mate.
My Bible *DOES* say though, that FAITH, w/o works, is DEAD. 
That means I must have ACTIONS, that back up my WORDS.   
If I say I want a mate, but I never SEEK one, my words don't match my actions, & I'm a hypocrite.
If you want an example, read about Ruth in the OT.   SHE WENT *LOOKING* (!!!) FOR A HUSBAND!!!       (& in this day of gender equality, I see no issue with a woman seeking a man, a mate is a mate is a MATE.)

REMEMBER, at the top, I said "if you're serious."   
Johnny has a good & valid point:
"According to the bible married people will face hard times. Think carefuly about marriage its till the day you die."
As a Christian, marriage between Christians, is for *LIFE*.   
If you've been single long enough, (I don't know your age, but, there is much merit in staying single long enough, until you can spell out in detail, what is important to you in a marriage, & in a partner.) then you know, that *SINGLES* face hard times ALSO.  The *REALITY* is, whether you stay single, or get married, you *WILL* have hard times sooner, or later in this life.  (ask any older person on this site---single, or married)
Here's the difference:    With a *MATE*, you can go through them *TOGETHER* (one flesh, as the BIble calls it) but singles, often go through hard times, *ALONE*. 

Let me respond to some things SarahLee said:
"Here is the problem with online dating.  You're not getting a real picture of who this person is at all. "     Online dating, is another method of dating.  It has it's pros, & it's cons.  (literally!)  I have known women, in troubled marriages, & divorced (there *ARE* worse things than being single!) & I can tell you, upfront, PEOPLE CAN DECEIVE YOU.    Online, in person, etc.  Doesn't matter.   These women would say, they *THOUGHT* they knew their husband (IN PERSON, NOT online!) & then after marriage, they found out they were wrong!   THis is where waiting on God can help.  JESUS is the TRUTH.  HE can help you sort out the TRUTH, from the LIES.  (don't be deceived, many calling themselves "CHRISTIAN" lie just as easily as those who don't.)   Jesus said we will known them by their FRUITS.   Do their actions match their words?  (these things apply to both sexes!)
Talk *IN DEPTH* about a variety of topics (yes, it takes serious *WORK* to find a mate!) spend time with them in a variety of circumstances, & places. 
Marriage is about more than "romance" (you won't find *THAT* word in the Bible!) IT TAKES WORK!  If you aren't willing to do the work beforehand, don't expect to reap the results afterwords!!!
You can also simply this greatly:  Define (IN DETAIL!) who you are, (what's important to you----beyond the physical) & WHAT YOU WANT (NEED, you won't get everything you want) in a mate.   Make sure that's available in your online profile.   (this is an edge people do *NOT* have in person.  In person, we know *VERY* LITTLE about people we meet!
Also related to that:  Make it a point up front, to emphasize OPENNESS, & HONESTY.    If they will not agree & stick to that---let them go. 
It's better to be single, than married to the wrong person.

Again, from Saralee:
"I finally ended the relationship because it became clear that marriage was not something he even had in mind.  He was content with a long distance relationship.  I, on the other hand, want a family and to be a wife and helpmate to a man that will love me all the way around, not just my mind!"
I'll repeat what I said above:   YOU MUST KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, & what you want in a partner.  Believe it or not, the *PHYSICAL* (so much emphasized by the world!) is secondary.  Numerous studies have shown, if your *HEARTS* do not agree, a marriage will be miserable at best.   [this is something you can find out LD, BEFORE you meet.]
If you want marriage & family, make sure he does too!  (etc)

Here's another tip from reading SaraLee  (things I already believe anyway, just using it as an illustration)
"When you do those ads, you're wanting to put on a good picture so that you'll be "picked" out of the hundreds of other ads."
*IGNORE* the picture.    In fact, I'd encourage you to respond to guys *REGARDLESS* of whether they have a pic or not.   READ THE PROFILE.    If it doesn't sound like a man you'd want to spend the rest of your life with, or, at *LEAST* like a man you'd to get to know more, MOVE ON.   If you don't match in the heart, the body won't matter.  (SERIOUS!)

A comment on this:
"Plus we have to be honest, it's dangerous. "       Is this a dangerous world???   DID they crucify JESUS, an INNOCENT man???!!!???
The answer to both questions, is YES. 
I would *HIGHLY* discourage you from dating, until you are right with God, *AND*, willing to put *HIM* first, in any & all relationship.  (not easy to do, take it from me!)
Once we have done THAT, the question now becomes:
Can God shut the mouths of LIONS???
(ask Daniel---the answer is YES)
Can God keep you safe, in a burning fiery furnace? 
[read about it in the OT----the answer is YES]

I don't have time or space here, to address the issue of fear, but there are numerous Bible studies on it.    Suffice it to say, that *IF* we truly fear God, we will not fear men (meaning man or woman)  *BUT*, if we start out by fearing man (or women) then we're already in trouble.

BTW, "There is a fine line there of trusting that God will bring that person to you and you on the other hand forcing YOUR will upon a situation." IMHO, expecting God to do everything, is not Biblical, & not right, & trying to control everything, is also not Biblical, & not right.   Both are extremes, & neither is the godly thing to do.  *REAL* love, *** always allows choice.      (that means, if they've never met you or talked to you, they certainly have no "CHOICE" of pursuing you (or you pursuing them) BUT, it ALSO means, that they may choose to end it, & walk away.

from SaraLee
"In the end, I would have to say that it is safer to wait upon the Lord for him to bring someone to you instead of actively "hunting" for someone.  Now that could come through the internet but it would be even better if that someone came strolling through the doors of your home church!"
Here, I think a quote from her, would be appropriate:
"it's dangerous."  [!!!]
Expecting the Lord to do ALL the work, is treating God like a heavenly vending machine, we pop in a few prayers, & out comes an answer!   
WOW!  If that isn't a deceptive & wrong view of God, I don't know what is!
WHAT do they that wait upon the Lord get?  "They shall inherit the earth."  (Psalms 37:9)   "until that he have mercy upon us."   (Psalms 123:2)
As part of worship, devotion, & intimacy with Him (God) (Isaiah 8, 40)
NO PROMISE IS EVERY MADE IN THE BIBLE, THAT THEY WHO WAIT UPON GOD WILL RECEIVE MATES!      I know that's a nice thing to think, but don't be deceived, it's not TRUE!
It's a nice thing to think that everyone's a good person, but, ask SaraLee:   There's plenty of bad people out there!
It's the *TRUTH* that sets us free, make no mistake.

RX has some good points about Sara's aunt.  Marriage, is a give & take relationship.  There will *ALWAYS* be things you don't like about your mate----ask *ANY* married couple!  ALWAYS!    The KEY  (this is a repeat from above)  is, before you start dumping your heart & soul into relationships, take *SERIOUS* thought, to mistakes & flaws that you can live WITH, & those that signal a red flag in a relationship. 
Keep in mind, the men you date, will be sizing you up in the same way. 
YES, it's *EASY* to pretend to be what we're *NOT*, but, the *REALITY* is, we *ALL* have flaws!    Find someone who'll take about their flaws (& be willing to talk about your own) & whose flaws you can live with.

SL: 
"When you're creating a profile for one of those places you greatly emphasize yourself to where you sound awesome because you want people to notice your ad above another persons.  It's very competitive. "   
THIS is where your big mistake is, NOT in not waiting upon God.What did Jesus say???   "Let your YES be YES, & your NO, NO." 
If you cannot, & are not, willing to do that yourself, & expect it from someone else (NORMAL, for a true Christian!) then you're better off not dating---online, or off.   [remember the HONESTY, OPENNESS?]

"I hate being sngle, absolutely hate it."----SL, you're not *REALLY* waiting upon the Lord.     Paul (who's been through more than most of us!) said he had learned to be content, in *ANY* situation!
(he was single too, btw.   At least, at that point in his life)
Ecclesiastes assures us, that there is a "TIME for every season."   That means, that, for many of us, there is a TIME for being single, & a TIME for marriage.    Our goal, should be to make the *BEST* of both times! 
NOT that I am against "seeking"   (see above) BUT, that our objective needs to be, developing intimacy with GOD, & putting developing intimacy with the opposite sex, a distant 2nd.    That's what "waiting upon the Lord" is all about!

ThyWillBeDone

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Re: Online dating
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2010, 08:44:16 PM »
Johnny '79:   I would *HIGHLY* caution you.  Just b/c it feels good, does NOT make it right!    That's a very dangerous path to start down.   
In fact, Jesus said, "NARROW is the way that leads to every lasting life, & FEW there are that find it!"  (emphasis mine)
Doing what's right, will not always make you feel good.   Right & wrong, should be governed by *BELIEFS*, *NOT*, by what "feels good" or other emotions.     Ask SaraLee.  I'm sure she's known some men, who've chosen the wrong standard of RIGHT, & WRONG.

"and was quite clear that I was looking for a man who had a relationship with God."----LizzieJane:  Good for you!!!  :-) :D 8)   My hat's off to you. 
TAKING A STANCE for God, is *NOT*  an easy thing, nor is it meant to be.    REGARDLESS of whether you meet the right person, I urge you:    keep your integrity with God, above all else!
Finding a parner, isn't worth loosing your salvation!
& as I mentioned previously:
"and you sure work out fast what you like and don't like in a prospective partner." ----this is very important.
God Bless.